difficult geometry, dome bottle, HELP

[al204]

hello Proe pros,


I have attached images of a bottle I was asked to model. So far this has been beyond my knowledge/skills.


Does anyone have suggestions on how to tackle modeling this bottle? A particularly difficult zone is the dome on the top.

using wf 3.0

best regards

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[faisalmk]

Dear al204

You have to sketch as much as possible of lines and curves
to define the overall shape of this bottle then you have to
use variable section sweep, boundary blend or surfacing
techniques.

Best Regards,
Faisal

 

[Jacoolo]

al

I do advise you to register on following forum: Product Design Forum

then there is directory related to 3D modeling with a lot of intresting tutorials, some of them directly discuss topic you are interested in:

* Small Bottle Modeling

* Some bottle Design Tricks

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All listed above are based on Solidworks, what finaly does not make any difference because the methodology on both Aps are the same.

 

[mgnt8]

All listed above are based on Solidworks, what finaly does not make any difference because the methodology on both Aps are the same.

Except for when he uses the Surface Fill command to complete the "hair-like" contours. 'Im not too familiar with saladworks, but, unless I'm missing something, this is not easily accomplished in Pro/E.

al204's bottle can probably be best modeled in Creo Freestyle

 

[solidworm]

Thats "boundary surface" which is used in that slide,cant
see any fill features there.you should be able to
duplicate that in Creo or ProE.
BTW, I've tried Creo Fill surface in ISDX,still not as
good solidworks fill,and should be in the base package of
course.

 

[mgnt8]

Looks like he used the Fill to "cap" the contoured surface. When you mention Creo Fill, are you referring to the trimmed rectangle command?

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[design-engine]

Haha... I modeled that production bottle.

 

[Jacoolo]

Except for when he uses the Surface Fill command to complete the "hair-like" contours. 'Im not too familiar with saladworks, but, unless I'm missing something, this is not easily accomplished in Pro/E.

for 3 and 4 sided boundaries SW Fill command can be simply reproduced by Boundary Blend tool. If 5, 6 or more sided boundaries are considered ISDX can handle this(at least it tries its best to do that)

one should know how to use boundary blend, how to replace 3 sided
surfaces with those based on 4 edges, and so forth, before facing task
like this one.



and if definitions mentioned above( 3-4 sided boundaries, etc), are no
clear enough, this forum is great place to ask about that.

 

[solidworm]

Cool example Greg.yes,i was referring to the new n-sided patch tool which is embedded in the ISDX surface feature(trimmed rectangle). it does the job,but solidworks creates more uniform surfaces for the cases i tried. (better looking iso curves i mean) solidworks fill is independent of the shape of its bounding curves,(fill surface iso curves are not affected by the shape of the boundaries).here's an example:

Creo's fill isnt that clean sometimes. actually i wanted to replicate the above example in creo but that "trimmed rectangle" was grayed out.(why?)
on the other hand boundary surface is dependent on the shape of the boundary curves:

 

[kanishk]

use an equation to create the helical curve.you can also create the helix with variable pitch.then use Variable section sweep to close out and finally shelling the model inside.

 

[mgnt8]

I'm drawing a blank when I try to imagine how a VSS will createthe half-moon shape that completes the contour. I would build a Style surface(s?) and trim it back