Hide section - problems (stay hidden)

[ledo]

I have these problem now for some time.


If i manualy hide one section in a part and save the part. When i open that part again the section is not hidden any more.


The same with asembly. Sometimes i want some sections to be hidden. But if i use hide in opened part from assemblyand save them both. Next time i open assembly the section is visible again.


How do i hide section to stay hidden after reopen it again?

 

[tobbo]

You have to - "save status" in layer mode, otherwise it will be as you described.


(right click in layers menu andclick save status)


//Tobias
Edited by: tobbo

 

[michaelpaul]

yet another one of the fun things that Pro Engineer does for you. When does Save not really mean save? all the time!

You have to go to View - Visibility - Save Status to actually save the current state of your model. Why you cannot show curves and then just hit save to save the model as it is currently represented is beyond me. you have to actually know that save means save only some of the time and the rest of the time you have to save status first! Stupid!

Michael

 

[jason_]

yet another one of the fun things that Pro Engineer does for you. When does Save not really mean save? all the time!

You have to go to View - Visibility - Save Status to actually save the current state of your model. Why you cannot show curves and then just hit save to save the model as it is currently represented is beyond me. you have to actually know that save means save only some of the time and the rest of the time you have to save status first! Stupid!

Michael

Sorry for long explanation but this is from a slightly different perspective.


For a part, it allows you to change layers for the current session you are working in without saving the layer display whenever you make actual design changes to the part. At my company, it is enforced through modelcheck to have certain layers hidden and others unhidden, so a default layer status. I don't have to worry about them being incorrect as long as I don't use 'Save Status' but I can change them all I want within the current session.


It's even more beneficialwhen workingwith assemblies. If I temporarily hide an item so that I can get a better look in a certain area I don't necassarily want to save that.By not using 'Save Status', I can make design changes to the assembly without having to worry about parts not displayingthe next timeme or someone else opens it.


It also allows you to turn layerson/off and hide/unhide items without putting a modification on the subcomponents. If I turn on Default Planes>Save Status>Save, I've just put a modification on all of the parts in that assembly and changed THEIR layer status. (Something I'd like to question PTC about) That could be a big dealif you're dealing with thousands of components. So,now everyones opening parts without any predictable layer status set in that kind of environment, not to mention the issues you run into when dealing with a PDM system like Intralink and trying to Check In files.

 

[ledo]

I see so basically it's a Layer thing.


I didn't use layers much until now but i pretty much assume what they do (if they are similar to autocad).


Thanks for answers. Will try it now when i know where to look for it.


P.S. Maybe there is a global setting to set and Save becomes Save + "save status" all together join in to one? Just something to think about.


But layers are OK. I just must learn a bit more about them.


In autocad i used layers all the time and there you have to change layer setting manually too each time.
Edited by: ledo

 

[jason_]

I see so basically it's a Layer thing.

Yeah, hide/unhide components and featuresare added to a layer that is at the top of every layer tree by default and is called "Hidden Items". Hide some items and you should be able to see them in that layer. In an assembly it will be housed under the assembly name under that same layer name. This is handy when you are in a large assembly and hide a component and then want to bring it back but don't want to burrow down into the structure. You just go to that layer and find the part and unhide it from there.
Edited by: jason_