How to determine simp reps on the drawing

[skraba]

Hello,


I've ran across the idea when working with large assembly drawing that Pro/E somehow loads not only user defined or default simp rep of views but also master rep. The procedure of creating the drawing was as follows:
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<LI>I've created the drawing with master rep</LI>
<LI>when I've added parts to the drawing assembly this became so large I've had to create simp rep to work with it</LI>
<LI>next I've changed all the views in the drawing to the created simp rep and changed also simp rep of the BOM</LI>[/list]


What else do I have to check for master rep, since Pro/E is, I believe, still loading it with the drawing?

 

[megaladon]

I believe it will always load master with the drawing


I have in the past done somethig similar to fix your problem


created simp reps 1 called blank and no parts with it


then set up my views when all done i snap shot everything


deleted all reps off except for blank that way intralink stays happy


there are pros and cons to this obviously but most of my editing of these prints was minimal and could be done by faking in a line here and there


the major pro was that it didnt take 8-10 minutes to load every time.


ps double click name at the bottom of your screen it should display all reps tied to your drawing.

 

[Isair]

At the bottom of drawing there is REP tag displaying currently activate representation, as Megaladon said, look at there did you switch to your simp rep.


No master rep shouldn't be in memory if you create drawing from simp rep (otherwise simp reps are useless), but if you create drawing as you have described there might be a problem, not sure if Pro/E has put out master rep from your drawing even you changed all views and BOM to simp rep.
So better practice is to first create simp rep, then you create drawing from your simp rep.


This is way you could check if your master rep is in memory when you open drawing:
First open your master rep asm, then switch to simp rep, press Erase not displayed, all parts that are excluded in simp rep should be in the list for erasing (except one that are parents to some components that are in simp rep).
Now you do thesame drill with drawing. First open master rep asm, after that open your drawing, close master rep, and press Erase not displayed, if the same part list is present then your drawing is completely simp rep, without master, if not then still pulls master in memory.


There are a lot of technique and config options for speed up drawings of complex asm's. For instance Drawing representations etc.
If you have problem with drawing and big asm, just let me know I will help if I can, I work a lot with large asm (my biggest, wast asm with over 70k components).

 

[Jacoolo]

Well Isair I disagreewith Your sentence - "No master rep shouldn't be in memory if you create drawing from simp rep (otherwise simp reps are useless)"


it always has a sense to put Reps for copmlicated assemblies and to views because it makes Update View faster. The time of opening drawing will be the same but, the time of updating will be shorter.


So make a rep that contain all parts that are outside in assembly. Than if You have a drawing that is an offer one and You show only the look of the product use this rep in views. The same rep is usefull while making DMU(Shrinkwrap)

 

[Isair]

Muadib3d
I was applying on logic of simp reps; if you while opening asm select to open simp rep of asm, then in memory would be only parts that are in this particular simp rep (except parts that are parents for components in simp rep), not whole master rep. Otherwise simp rep would be useless.


The same is if you create drawing of only simp rep of asm; also it wouldn't call master rep in memory.


Simp reps are not only for creating view and for reduce update time in drawing, their use is far more larger. For example, you have asm with number over 60 000 of parts in asm, you create one interchange asm to replace all thous 60 000 parts, so you can manipulate easily with asm. Also there are a lot of problems with large asm, for this example it would be impossible to open such asm, because it would be needed over 2Gb memory, also win xp 32bit couldn't handle single process (Xtop) to use memory over 800Mb > it would automatically crush ProE, etc.


As what you are suggesting this is true, I have a lot of time use combination of simp reps on drawing with master rep, actually I used mater rep only for BOM, all other views were in simp rep's.
But this depends on your needs for creating drawing, in other cases I have created drawings from only simp rep, without master rep.


From my experience it seams that when you opening asm, if you first open simp rep, then change to master it has better results rather to open directly master.
Also it isseams thatus better to first open asm either in simp or mater, then you go opening drawing.