merge/inheritance visibility settings

[2ms1]

I have lots of parts that were made with surfacing techniques and then
thickened etc and are now being merged into a "master part". The annoying
thing is that no matter how much I hide things like surfaces that only ever
existed for doing things like trimming other surfaces, and then save the
visibility settings within the individual parts, when I merge them into the
"master part" all of the sudden all these surfaces become unhidden.

If I'm not mistaken, you can't hide individual features of merged-in parts
when working on "master part". So how in the world to I get all these
ridiculous things that are hidden in the merged-in parts to stay hidden?

 

[mcgowanp]

I'm not too sure what you mean by visibility settings. But this does sound exactly like the kind of method that one of my clients use. I handle all of these "construction" surfaces by adding them to layers. I setup layers for surfaces, curves and construction geom.


The layering abilities of proe are not too bad actually.They can be used to great effect. Dont get me wrong there is a long way to go for the layering abilities of proe to be good but its getting there. The main problem that I see in most companies are legacy config files that never quite get fixed properly and end up causing all kinds of problems. When i would be a simple exercise to start new config files and get them right - sorry bit of a rant there.


hope it helps.


Paddy

 

[2ms1]

Is there any way to do it without layers? I simply want things in model tree
that are set to 'hidden' to stay hidden when the part gets merged into
another part.

Is it clear what I mean? I do need to look into layers more. But it would be
easiest for working if I could just keep things in the one layer (so everything
is shown at once in model tree) and just not have the visibility properties not
go out the door as soon as I merge the part into another one.

 

[mcgowanp]

I know what you mean. I have have the same problem and so does the client. When in an assembly if we hide off the component and then unhide we then see all the surfaces etc that were hidden. Its still a little buggy is hiding geom. I'm using wf2 but upgrading to wf4 so it may be a little better there. but my advice is still the same. Use layers for this. You can pop as much as you want onto one layer, there is a function called excluded in the layer dialogue box which take the feature selected off the layer, so if the layer is hidden your excluded surface will be shown, it is still in the layer but with a minus sign next to it. I use this a great deal with this client also.


Sorry i dont have an answer you were looking for.


Paddy

 

[mcgowanp]

Ofcourse the other ways to do it would be to use style representations and simplified reps. This works only on the component layer as far as I am aware but can be handy when in the assy and trying to copy out the surfaces that you are looking for.


Paddy

 

[2ms1]

Ok the thing that is bothering me is that when you right-click hide
anything in a part, it sends that feature to the "Hidden Items" layer in
that parts layer tree.

The problem is that then if you merge that part into another part, the
"Hidden Items" are no longer hidden. Whether I do Merge or Inherit, I am
not able to reselect those items and send them to the "mother part"'s
"Hidden Items" layer. In the case of parts that are Merged-in, it's not
possible to select individual features within the part at all. In the case of
Inherited parts, it's possible to select features, but you are basically only
able to suppress them or edit the features themselves (not do anything
like change their visibility or layer).

Any other ideas? I'm not sure what you mean with style respresentations
and simplified reps. By the way, this is all still in part mode. I'm not
putting things into assembly. This is all Insert>Shared
Data>Merge/Inheritance (just to clarify).