Pro/Weldanica

[Rbrgr83]

I haven't yet seen a concrete answer for this:


If I setup assembly welds in Pro/Welding, will they be used properly in Pro/Mechanica??


I currently experiencing pains with Pro/Weld for the purpose of detailing and I'm more than willing to chuck it and use manual weld notes. However, we will begin using Mechanica shortly and I would just like to know if it would be worth putting Pro/Weld assignments into the models for future use with Mechanica.

 

[jbuckl]

Your suggestion for new module 'Pro/Weldanica' has been met with approval at PTC, and will be available WF4 m380 at an additional cost of $150k per inch of weld used.


The suitability and strength of weld cannot be warrantied in any event, but maintenance will of course, be chargeable per inch.

 

[prohammy]

Your suggestion for new module 'Pro/Weldanica' has been met with approval at PTC, and will be available WF4 m380 at an additional cost of $150k per inch of weld used.


The suitability and strength of weld cannot be warrantied in any event, but maintenance will of course, be chargeable per inch.

In addition to the above offers, there will be a dedicated helpline (TOLL FREE Number). The staff will be courteous and bend over backwards to help our valued customers. All calls will be logged so that we can play them back to our friends at dinner parties and fall down in tears of laughter......


Kev


PS The first beta release of Pro/Weldanica will be riddled with bugs and possibly the odd line of code missing.....


Regards


Santa Claus
Product Development Enginnering Manager
Edited by: prohammy

 

[ankarl]

....and of course will Pro/Weldanica be replaced with Pro/Weldmaniac when everybody realize they got srcewed once again with yet another non-working module, of course with additional cost and higher maintenance fee.....

 

[bds3]

Ha! Those are great comments.


Rbrgr83, for what it is worth, I have not yet had much luck with the pro-welds working in Mechanica. I get the most reliable results by actually modeling the welds. I agree it is a pain. Modeling the welds is not without its problems. I spend far too much time trying to refine my model and mesh to get rid of bogus stress singularities.

 

[Rbrgr83]

Of course, Pro/Weldanica will have multiple tiers:
-Standard Module
-Advanced Module
-Supersize Module


In the strandard version, you can create various types of welds, but after they are created they become invisible in the model and the model tree.


In advanced module, created welds can be viewed, but they can only be edited or removed byusing the Grind command.


The supersize module is only $.49 more (per second of use) and comes with a 42oz. soft drink.

Edit:
Hey bds, didn't see your comment there. That confirms my suspisions. I just remebered hearing someone telling me long ago that Mechanica would use the pro/weld assignments. They were, as I suspected, a liar (and come to think of it, their pants were on fire at the time).
Edited by: Rbrgr83

 

[ankarl]

Honestly, its easier to produce a good weld IRL than in Pro/E, at least for me....

 

[Rbrgr83]

Too true. And I suck at welding too

 

[Knut Fiskergård]

I don't mean to swear in church, but I've actually used Inventor Pro 10. Added welds in Inventor where picked up by Ansys (and named weld beads (surprise!)) and treated as a single part.

Since I basicly work only with welded parts, I'd like to have this possibility. I think PTC should put out the pant fire (a possible name for next version? From Wildfire to Pantfire?) and do something about this?


Its true that it is hard to warrant the suitability and strenght of a weld in mechanica (or ansys for that matter),and it is the HAZ that often is the problem. But it could, combined with engineering knowledge, shed some brighter lighton the more complex problems.


One thing about failure diagnostic is that

 

[arrichar]

Bart, from Design Engine, in a cannondale workshop showed the engineers how to quickly replicate welds on the bike frames using surfaces. It was not using the weld function however it did give the engineers a more accurate model to analyze.

 

[jbuckl]

Why even consider 'white elephant analysis' of welding??


Why not use your welders experience....


Isn't that why welders get coded approval?


Icannot see weld bead & penetration being a simple feature to accurately model and or mesh, let alone get believable results out of FEA for.


Looking around it seems like a current topic for people to study at university, but not yet adopted as 'state of the art.' predictive technology.


Perhaps for Pro-E theres a cheaper m/s excel - driven bolt-in, but dont expect coded weld quality, more like crows / pigeonguarno quality.