Sketcher Question

[boydt]

Is there a trick to finding where your open ends are for a closed loop sketch?


I am making a sketch from other edges (use edge feature). There are a lot of small radius' and angles that need trimming. I keep getting the error,.... "Section must be closed for this feature."


Just wondering if there is a trick to finding WHERE the problem is.

 

[appinmi]

If you have a good eye, proe will highlight the unclosed ends in red. The only way I can see them, probably because of my eyesight, is to turn shaded image on, then select done, and see where the red is. Sometimes you have to zoom way in and only see 5 or 6 vertices each time. Pan around and try again. To make the problem even worse, you could have 2 of the same entity, which they lay on each other. Proe thinks you have 2 sections then, one of them isn't closed.
Edited by: appinmi

 

[boydt]

Dang. I was hoping for a slick feature I didn't know about. My eyes hurt from looking so hard. Thanks for the reply.


I am color blind real bad... I have a hard time seeing certain things in Pro. Do others have this problem?

 

[telecomguy]

If your edges are continuous you can use the loop option so you don't miss those little guys. But otherwise, the red highlighting is all I know of.


<tg>

 

[dr_gallup]

They used to be much easier to see until PTC improved the color scheme.

 

[megaladon]

if I get to the point of getting ready to throw my pc out the window I will turn model solid and backgroung white in hopes of seeing the highlighted prob show up for a milisecond.


can someone link us to the ptc complaint dept to get this issue fixed before WF7 comes out

 

[boydt]

After 1 hr I finally got it. I am not sure of the exact problem. I deleted and replaced all lines to make sure I didn't have multiple lines, I trimmed all lines to ensure nothing was overlapping or not reaching the other, then I was seconds from starting all over again yelled the F word and it magicly worked. I LOVE PRO/E!

 

[james.lynch]

Ha! sounds all too familiar!

it really is a pain! and for WF 3.0 they completly rewrote the sketcher engine making it 40% faster for large sketches - but would you think that they would have fixed this instead? wouldhave make a whole lot of people happier!


I was thinking of asking admin for a section in this forum where if we had a complaint about a particular area and wanted to submit an enhancment request we could post the topic with a link to the PTC site and then people could copy the text from MCAD into the PTC enhancment site - if a couple of hundred people did it in the space of a few weeks im sure they would have to listen!

or maybe not!

James
Edited by: james.lynch

 

[[-Skint-]]

Dang. I was hoping for a slick feature I didn't know about. My eyes hurt from looking so hard. Thanks for the reply.


I am color blind real bad... I have a hard time seeing certain things in Pro. Do others have this problem?

Yes I am colour blind too, and I deffinatley struggle with the same error quotes on a regular basis. The trick is to keep the sketches as simple as possible and make rads etc within the model, but obviously that is not possible all the time. Damn annoying isnt it.


Glad you got things sorted out

 

[Zaki]

Actually guys,


This is a very frequent problem. I solved this by simple logic, if u have a lot of radiuses, so dont use all of it, just select lines, arcs and splines etc, then trim or fillet them.I u have a very large sketch, make this in steps, just select some edges at a time andgo out and save part.Come toredefine again and select some more entities.Remember, if u select one edge twice, you must get same error massege.

 

[markp]

Good one Dr.!


The very first thing I said to myself when I took the 2001 to Wildfire traing was..."I am old, half blind AND color blind. This is not going to be good."!


I think we need a forum called..."Things we would like to have changed back to 2001."

 

[michaelpaul]

Is there a trick to finding where your open ends are for a closed loop sketch?


I am making a sketch from other edges (use edge feature). There are a lot of small radius' and angles that need trimming. I keep getting the error,.... "Section must be closed for this feature."


Just wondering if there is a trick to finding WHERE the problem is.

this is one of the more aggravating things i've come across since switching from SW to Pro a few months ago. One of the rather useful tols that SW had in sketh mode was the ability to check the sketch based on what you were going to do with it. So, you could enter tools, check sketch, for feature, protrusion and it would evaluate the sketch and CLEARLY highlight any errors it found. then, fix the problems and go about your work.

If I get the multiple open loop error now, I just go in and trim/intersect each line entity I have to make sure I close them all. I've gotten better at detecting problems based on rogue dimensions too but it's a battle!

Michael

 

[boydt]

What a coincidence... I just found this old posting of mine just now and had this same problem today. My color blindness with Pro/E is very irritating. Can you change line colors in skether? I need to take the time and change colors in other areas to see better. I was clicking on something a few months back that was highlighting in brown on a red line and I could NOT see it. I asked other guys in the office and it was quite obvious to them.


Another thought is, I have a disability here... right? Maybe I can collect disability benefits for this.

 

[[-Skint-]]

Wildfire 4 has made things a little better. In sketcher you now have an extra icon on the dashboard which turns on " Larger " red dots for the open ends. Much better


EDIT : Just for clarity, the icon is named " Highlight Open Ends ".
Edited by: [-Skint-]

 

[kthomas]

i often find that students have inadvertantly drawn a line on top of another line. The easy way out is to delete the line, if there is one under it, you found your problem. If not, then hit undo, which puts the line back and go to the next.


I also try to make sure that the center of the screen, (where the error message pops up), is not covering part of the sketch. This makes it easier to see the LITTLE red dots that show the location of your problem.


you have my sympathy pal, i am somewhat colour blind also,(red-green) is most common in men, and i had a hard time in the begining seeing some of the highlights and pre highlights. You can change the color scheme, but that is rather ineffective in sketcher.The degree of you color blindness would have a great deal to do with you ability to work effectively. Good luck!, i have struggled.

 

[oldman]

FYI


Also besides the trim command. Sometimes if all else fails. I use the extend command and pick one line and radius after another all the way around. It sometimes closes the small gaps unseen even with the microscope.