Insert drawing sheet from another drawing

[networkned]

We manufacture vehicle cooling systems and have a standard filler neck which we use on a large number of our products. The filler neck has it's own part number and it's own drawing.

When modelling coolers the filler neck is pulled into the assembly as a part as you would expect.

We then generate a drawing of the cooler which usually only needs one drawing sheet, but we have several customers who are demanding a drawing of the filler neck as part of the drawing pack we send to them.

Does anyone know of a way in which I can insert the drawing of the filler neck as the second sheet of the cooler drawing in such a way that if I update the filler neck drawing it updates the second sheet of the relevant cooler drawings?

Thanks.

 

[conrat]

This would be great if it is possible. I know of no way to do
this. There may be a way using JLink, but I am not the one to
offer a solution.



We have a situation where we constantly regenerate a model to different
configurations. It is a door model, and depending on the type of
door currently in session, the internal parts constantly change.



I would love to have a drawing pull in the part drawings for all of the
internal parts so that our designers don't have to open each drawing to
print them. This is time consuming and the file names can be a
bear to select.



The way I have been doing it is I created a repeat region in a new
drawing that lists all of the drawings I need have printed. Then,
we print this to a PDF and copy and paste the file names. Not a
pretty fix, but it is much easier than manually selecting the drawings
in the file open box.



Jim

 

[sip]

H guys,


Insert>shared data>from file should do what you want.


Sip

 

[conrat]

Sip,



Is there a way to do this through a relation? Also, does this
create a reference to the original drawing or does it explode it into
the new drawing? ie - can you make changes in the original and
have it update in the new drawing.



Thanks,

Jim

 

[sip]

Jim,


I don't know the answer toyour firstquestion. To your second, I have the idea any changes you make to the original drawing don't get reflected here, but any changes to the model will.


Sip

 

[conrat]

It is a one way operation then. I wish they would come up with
something like a "include" from web pages. In a web page, you can
use an include to have multiple web pages pulled into one page.
Then, changes made to the individual pages are reflected in the page
that has included them.



Something like this would be a great addition to Pro/E



Anyway Sip, thanks for the reply



Jim

 

[sip]

Could you put a hyperlink in there? Just an idea. I've never done it myself.


Sip

 

[conrat]

I tried to add this in a repeat region. I had the same
thought. You could then click on the link to open each
drawing. However, I could not get it to read anything other than
a hard coded value. This meant I could not get the link to change
based on the row.



If anyone has been successful doing this, it would be great. Feel free to post if you have.



Jim

 

[dmiller327]

Can't you just add the filler neck to the assembly drawing as an additional drawing model and create a drawing ofthe neckon a second sheet.


I just tested it out and regardless of which drawing model is set active, modifications of the other model do show up in the drawing.


Am I missing something here. You can still have a second stand alone drawing of the neck if necessary.

 

[networkned]

Guys,

Thanks for the input - I've been out of the office for a couple of days and it's great to read through your input.

Conrat - we do this too. We have an assembly specific border with the repeat region in which lists all ofthe parts and drawings involved in the assembly. We still have to open every drawing through File Open though. Would be great if we could take up sips idea of a hyperlink in the repeat region but we'd still be exporting individual drawings instead of sheets from a common drawing, which means we run the risk of missing one and having to resubmit the whole lot to the customer.

dmiller - I've done this on a couple of units already, but once you've drawn the same component for the third time..... What I'm trying to get to is having a drawing of the filler neck which is included as a second sheet in the assembly so that I can hit 'Print' and generate all of the drawings the customer needs in one hit: the filler neck was an example as there are 6 or 8 drawings in the 'pack' he needs. The point I'm trying to get is one where if I'm run over by a bus tomorrow somebody can hit print in an assembly drawing & get all of the bit they need to build the unit.

sip - thanks for the Insert>shared data>from file. I'll give that a go through teh course of today and see what happens.

 

[networkned]

Wahay

Just tried sips Insert>Shared Data>File and it works! Ok, it puts the detail in without the original drawing number but I can live with that, and the data ties back to the original model. What I have done is put a note in the original stating that the original drawing controls the revision level.

Thanks guys.

 

[venu2citd]

In ur drawing


Add a blank sheet then follow below


" Tools -> Overlay -> Place sheet ------- then select which ever u want


Best regards


Venu
Edited by: venu2citd

 

[dr_gallup]

Venu

That is too cool. It is exactly what the original poster wanted. I had not messed with overlays for about 20 years, they work very well. Not sure why it is under Tools instead of Insert but that's PTC for you.

 

[conrat]

Does this overlay update when the original drawing is updated?
Also, can you dynamically control when it is on or off? For
instance ,can I only have the overlay show up if a certain part is in
the BOM?



I have never used them, so I should try it out.



Jim

 

[dr_gallup]

Conrat

Yes it does update. No, it is not based on the BOM.