Multiple Model BOM Balloons

[MugenPower]

Hi Guys


Our drawings often show multiple configurations of an assembly, therefore we have multiple models associated with those drawings. We have succeeded in building a BOM repeat region that features multiple columns for the rpt.qty info for the various models and itpopulates brilliantly

However, we can't show BOM balloons from it. The message window says "BOM Balloons are not supported for regions with multiple models". We are using WF2 buildcode M200. Is this function supported in a more current build of WF2, or in WF3, maybe?

 

[jeff toff]

Hi MugenPower,


We have also created a multi column BOM. We are using WF3 and the multi column table does not work. What we do is have a master table off the drawing sheet with item numbers in it. We then organize the multi column table using the fix index to match the master table.


Jeff Toff

 

[MugenPower]

We have gotten the table to fill out automatically - just can't show balloons automatically. Did you assign a model to each column with the &rpt.qty report parameter? You do this with the Column Model/Repselection under the TBL REGIONS menu. If the balloons could be shown automatically, we'd have some happier campers at my company

 

[jeff toff]

Yes we have used the model rep.


Our problem is that we do not have item numbers showing up with all the variations of similar part #'s, so we manually enter the item #'s after we fix index. For E.g abc, abc-1, abc-2 all would have an index # of 1 and so on for the next part #'s in the table. Have you mastered this function to be automatic?


Jeff Toff

 

[MugenPower]

Yes we have. It really works great too

Parts that are reused in the different models show up in the BOM multiple times by default but that can be remedied by going into the Table > Attributes menu and selecting >No Duplicates.

 

[jeff toff]

Hi MugenPower,


Do you useitem numbers in your multi column tables? Do you manually have to enter the items numbers or did you make a relation to automate the item numbers? If you did I would be interested in knowing the relationship.


Jeff Toff

 

[rami-n]

you can achive it by using symbolic rep.

 

[MugenPower]

Hi MugenPower,


Do you useitem numbers in your multi column tables? Do you manually have to enter the items numbers or did you make a relation to automate the item numbers? If you did I would be interested in knowing the relationship.


Jeff Toff

The columns for the multiple models show only quantity. The item numbers are shown only once. We didn't do any special tweaking to get the item numbers - just the usual reportparameter (&rpt.index )
Edited by: MugenPower

 

[MugenPower]

you can achive it by using symbolic rep.

Please expand on this. Do you mean that balloons can be shown automatically?

 

[jeff toff]

Hi MugenPower,


How do you number parts or assemblies which come from the same family.Assembly for example that would be 2 different sizes but used in the same location, this would have the same Index number.


Jeff Toff

 

[MugenPower]

We don't re-use item numbers when similar parts (in this case item's 1-3, called housings) are substituted in different assemblies. Take a look at this sample BOM and see if you can follow what we are doing.


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[jeff toff]

Hi Mugen,


How are you getting all the parts to have balloons. Do you assemble all instances in the generic? This show how we number our BOM. We only assemble one part in the generic.


Jeff ToffView attachment 3774

 

[MugenPower]

Actually, we are not getting any balloons to auto-populate. I haven't tested the BOM with family tables instances - ours are discrete models. Did youtry selecting the Table>Attributes>No Duplicates pick to combine the duplicated item numbers?

 

[MugenPower]

I just got the definitive word from PTC that the auto-ballooning is not a supported function

TPI 120382 details a workaround but it is probably just as much trouble as manually adding the balloons. I submitted a Product Enhancement Request but I'm sure that it will take many more requests than mine to get it done.