Notebook for Wf 2.0 without VISTA

[dgs]

As stated, nVidia's CAD cards are the Quadro series. Get the best one you can afford, cheaper low end cards can come back and bite you later when Pro|E is updated. I'm not sure what ATI's CAD cards are called.


Gamer cards, like the nVidia GeForce line, can be OK, but suffer with many open windows and are generally slower. There may be other issues as well.

 

[[-Skint-]]

My Acer Ferrari laptop comes with the ATI Mobility Radeon X700. Not had any issues with it uptill now... unless I tried to open and play with a Car model with 4500+ features.. then it slowed a little.

 

[bearsfeat]

The Dell M90 is being suggested a lot here - I agree with that, if you need the 17" screen. I personally use the M70 and love it (a bit older and 15.4 wuxga screen). I have not had any issues in the 2 years I have been using it and I typically turn it on at least twice a day, 5 days a week or more.

I have also had great luck using the Dell Outlet - buying refurb'd machines. You don't save a TON of $$, but you do get a better price, and the full Dell warranty. I will also say that the Dell customer service department as a whole has dramatically improved in the last year to 6 months. They seem to GET it now that pleasing a customer is what drives repeat business.

Nathan

 

[2ms1]

ATI bought out the excellent German pro OpenGL/CAD card manufacturer Fire GL a few years back. The company basically just got swallowed/integrated in to their standard operations.


All the discrete graphics cards support OpenGL. Many of the best games are OpenGL. For example, ID Software, the maker of Doom, Quake, etc uses OpenGL not DirectX. Performance in Quake and Doom are the most popular benchmarks people use to test the performance of new graphics cards.


OpenGL support isn't going anywhere for a long time and all of the cards support it.


The Pro CAD cards like the ATI cards with Fire in their name or NVidia cards with Quadro in their name are the standard gaming cards from these manufacturers only with a few more OpenGL features (already built into card) enabled rather than disabled. THese additional features are feautures that aren't generally used in games but are in cad. A pay a huge premium just to have these few features enabled. That's not to say they aren't worth it for many, I'm just saying that the cards are fundamentally the same and the vast majority of OpenGL support/hardware acceleration (rather than CPU having to do it which also works fine just slower)is identical between them.


If I'm not mistaken,high-end gaming card will generally give you excellent CAD performance as long as you are not doing Humongous assemblies. Someone correct me though if I'm wrong on this last bit.
Edited by: 2ms1

 

[arvindkolhar]

Can someone help me to choose a new notebook that doesn't work with VISTA?[/QUOTE]

It is not necessary to use WinXP to run WF 2.0. I have tried it on a Vista M/C and it works. You do have to perform one simple step though. Before you run WF 2.0 right click on the proe.exe file ( in program files not the shortcut ) click properties, click compatibility, under run this program compatible to check win xp or 2000 or NT click apply and ok. Restart your computer for safety sake and run WF 2.0. It should work perfectly. This is a workaround but cannot tell you how good or bad it is. I assume you should be able to do the same for WF 3.0 too.

Hope it helps

 

[dgs]

OpenGL support isn't going anywhere for a long time and all of the cards support it.

My understanding is that Vista has no OpenGL support, which is why folks are avoiding it like the plague for CAD right now. I could be wrong.

If I'm not mistaken,high-end gaming card will generally give you excellent CAD performance as long as you are not doing Humongous assemblies. Someone correct me though if I'm wrong on this last bit.

I've always been told to avoid the gamer cards, period. Maybe the high end ones will be fine, I dunno. I'm not an expert in this, I just need something that works, so I stick to the mid-high end CAD cards.

 

[foolmankh]

Hi dgs,
It does not contain but it still supports OpenGL.
"Like windows XP, Windows Vista does not contain an OpenGL"in the box." but End users will need to install drivers from OEMs or video hardware manufacturers in order to access native hardware-accelerated OpenGL. These drivers can be found on the Web sites of most hardware manufacturers." refer to
http://www.opengl.org/pipeline/article/vol003_7/
I think almostGraphic cards that's compatible with ProE, except 2007-08-28_005054_2004_graphics_cards_decerts.zip
And the important thing isgraphic card's price

. It's depend on you

Have a Good Day

Edited by: foolmankh

 

[AHA-D]

Windows has taken OpenGL out of standard support in favour of its own DirectX10. That's obviously a policy in line with the rest of it's behaviour of "Windows and nothing else". They would like everyone doing graphics working with DX and if we don't watch out it will end like that.


Personally I have had "gaming" cards only in my CAD-computers (private job). At some locations I had FX-cards (daytime job). With the models I handle I've never seen any difference. Or to put it in other words. Real time manipulating on the screen (where the professional card scores high) shows no delay with the models I handle. Rendering (where the processor comes in) is unacceptable in both gaming and FX cards.


Alex