Simplified part and export to autocad

[dabu76]

Hi,

I am working in ship equipment design and have specific question.
Recently i am evaluating pro/e as tool for design in my company and
have a problem. We use steel profiles in our designs and draw them
symbolicaly as simple line in autocad. This is corporate rule and cannot be
changed.
So my question is:
I have lets say steel L profile as part in larger assembly.
I wish that this profile in drawing is represented by purple dashed line positioned
not in center of profile but on one side of profile, left or right. Purpose for that
is that drawing is less cluttered with many contour lines (in case of L profile
I have one line instead of three in classical top down view).
So how to do that?
Next question is how to export that to autocad that purple dashed line is
purple dashed in autocad also? Preferably all same lines in one layer?

Thanks for any answer!

 

[AHA-D]

Looks to me like you want to create a marriage between the 2D-way you used to work and a 3D-tool such as ProE. The simple answer is : forget it !


The more extensive answer is that you can't choose for a new tool and expect the old ways to stay valid, useful, possible, worthwile, ...


An L-profile in any 3D-CAD is a 3D-object, a body. It can have a simplified representation - in this case throw out all drafted sides and rounds - but it keeps having a volume, has different faces, and all of these faces are represented when you make a drawing.


On a higher level - the assembly - you can also have simplification. Choosing not to show small objects is an option, working with subassemblies and layers you can also show part of an assembly.


But no way will an L-shaped beam show as a single line. You could of course work your way around and have a sketch present in the beam model and then show only the sketch and not the model, but then you start on the wrong foot. It is creating extra work for the purpose of mimic the old way without adding advantages.


My 0,02 euro.


Alex

 

[jeff4136]

Dabu, what is "ship equipment"?


You can do what you want to with caveats which will be dependent on
how you want to manage your assemblies, on downstream process (FEA?)
and quite probably some cleanup in Acad after import. I'm guessing
that setting up your templates with the 'line' geometry (which might
drive the 'solid' geometry directly or share a common dependency
making it associative) and layers would be a good start and using
simplified representations, family tables, or maybe just layers to
control what's loaded, what's visible, what's exported would be
practical workflow evolutions. Or a skeleton or 'master model'
approach might be more appropriate.


Without any intention to insult; I think you have been misled by
'industry' marketing propoganda particularly prevalent in 'entry
level' advertising. Unless your needs are Pop's Custom Design-n-Fab
simple the only person qualified to evaluate a program for specific
applications and environments is someone, on site, that knows the
program well. Try before you buy schemes are a farce.
_ _ _ _ _ _


Alex, I ~think~ where Dabu is coming from is common practice in the
industry even in a solid modeling environment. It's something I'm
curious and totally ignorant, so stop here unless you're bored, about ...


Searching the web for terms similar to "shipbuilding solutions"
indicates(?) Catia and CADDS are the prominent 'modern' or 'high end'
environments. I imagine UG is there, too, but doesn't seem to be
advertising the industry specific "solution" bit. AutoCAD is seen,
has industry specific add-ons and I guess is going to be 'viable'
for the foreseeable future but doesn't pique my curiosity like the
'state of the art'(?) million+ part assy heavy industry applications.


Some CADDS related information and possible sources of insight...


http://www.john-j-jacobs.de
http://www.john-j-jacobs.de/caddsdoc13/mainmenu.html (online doc index)
http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~sa2728/CADDS5-Doku/ (manuals and user guides)


... in particular ...
Introduction to CADDS.pdf
http://www.john-j-jacobs.de/caddsdoc13/doc38003.pdf
User Guide and Menu Reference - CADDS5 - Nodal Construction.pdf
[url]http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~sa2728/CADDS5-Doku/NodalConstruction- v6-e.pdf[/url]
User Guide and Menu Reference - CADDS5 - Advanced Structural Modeling.pdf
http://www.john-j-jacobs.de/caddsdoc13/doc40017.pdf


Insight into Pro/E's current role?
Using Associative Topology Bus Enabled CADDS 5i.pdf
http://www.john-j-jacobs.de/caddsdoc13/doc40202.pdf

 

[design-engine]

yea. let go of the dark side.jump in full force. I once had a manager who wanted the drawing to look exactly like it did for him when using another program. You got to just let go.